Right then pull finger out of Orifice,
gather your acts and get your selves mobile.

Cataclysm.
Fun leveling but thats done now. Its time for Heroics, 10 man raids and having a fucking clue
No more fucking about in 5 man normal instances.
This expansion I want to see the end game while its still end game
I want to kill the big fucking dragon, do the 5,10 and 25 man stuff.
So whos up for that then?

With the usual proviso of if it's obviously impossible with out setup/damage etc.. Can't be arsed if you mathematically need say 10k DPS (Random number) per DPS to kill something and we're not doing that, there's no point being there.

Plenty of resources out there for people to learn rotations, glyphs, gems and the like. Start with elitistjerks if you're after info and work from there.

Well we need to "fuck about" in 5-mans to get the gear required to be decent in heroics.
Then we have to repeatedly run heroics to get the best drops as well as the rep requirements for the enchants/gems/etc.

No point going in under-geared and unprepared.

Yeah but there's a difference between 'fucking about' and doing them properly.

Fuck about = fucking about like idiots.
Not just doing em because we have to. Get a grip Pete and stop being a tit. Oh wait I ask the impossible, or at least the improbable.

Wait, what the fuck?!

I was agreeing with the both of you, I want to do the Heroics and Raids.

What I was saying was we need a little time to:
A: Get more people to 85
B: Get the dungeons mastered in terms of boss tactics etc
C: Run the instances until we've all got what we need from them (for Heroics/Raids) and
D: Run them for the Rep Rewards (which will be mostly done as we're doing point C.

count me in fellas, should be 85 in a next hour or so of righting this then going straight onto heroics as my item level is high enough to do the random joins, but ofcourse if youd rather id hold back until tonight to do them so im not locked im more than happy to do that

We've walked the starter dungeons but we're having a hard time in the 84/85 ones.
I'm still blaming it on gear rather than ability but that means that we all have to look at our own gear and start optimizing it, I don't like people not needing on items that are obvious upgrades.
On a general note : it's a little harder again but we all have played this game for long enough to not be bothered with that !

And btw : who spends his time in the queue reading boss tactics ?