So, wow has been taking the piss from most of the people that I have played with, including myself. I only play until my sub runs out and does so only by doing Sethekk runs for the Raven Lord mount on my DK and helping my wife out as she sucks more ingame than in IRL..
Tried the swtor and thought it was just a wow game with another paint like type addon. Felt the same as "all" mmo's out there.
Will you guys try out Guild Wars 2 when it launches?
Its pre-purchase time in 4 days on https://buy.guildwars2.com/
No given release date or so but seems like a solid mmo that will change some of the standards set by the "old" games.
As far as myself concerned I am very interested in this, just like both Cliff and Matt.

/Fred

Hey Ray/Fred, WoW has gone down the drain but gave me years of pleasure too.
I like SWTOR a lot - it's a bit WoW-ish in some ways but it's not just old wine in new sacs, storylines are very elaborate (for every class ! ).
Might give GW a go, undecided as yet.

We don't do much as a group anymore, we have a little bit of ToR as a group and we still play football (PES 2012) on a regular basis but apart from that it's a bit of a calm period, we saw some members leave and IRL happened to a few of us as well (imagine that !).

Stay in touch, catch you around.

/Bis.